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Just saw the report. I watched a documentary on CSN&Y just a few weeks ago. He was 81.

Sad. We've lost Jeff, now David. 2 brilliant men.

It is sad Tim, and unfortunately in the near future we are going to lose many more of our music heroes that generated the tunes we grew up with in the 60's and 70's. They are all getting up there in the years and most have high mileage.

Several months ago I finally got around to watching a VHS tape of Woodstock 94 I found at a thrift store several years ago. This was the 25th Anniversary of the original 1969 festival. It was very enlightening, and it made it clear to me that a profound shift had happened in American culture between the 1994 25th Anniversary concert and the 1999 30 Anniversary concert.

Notable representatives of late 60s culture present at the 94 show were Bob Dylan, as well as Crosby, Stills, and Nash.

RIP Dave Crosby.

toomanycats wrote: ↑Fri Jan 20, 2023 7:49 am Several months ago I finally got around to watching a VHS tape of Woodstock 94 I found at a thrift store several years ago. This was the 25th Anniversary of the original 1969 festival. It was very enlightening, and it made it clear to me that a profound shift had happened in American culture between the 1994 25th Anniversary concert and the 1999 30 Anniversary concert.

Notable representatives of late 60s culture present at the 94 show were Bob Dylan, as well as Crosby, Stills, and Nash.


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Another 60's iconic group, Traffic, was back together for the 94' WS concert. I saw them at a small concert venue on same tour.
They were an "impossible bucket-list" group to see, as I never dreamed they'd ever get back together. RIP Chris Wood and Jim Capaldi.
Also, being an early Clapton and Blind Faith fan, I was aware of how good Winwood could play guitar leads.
He did not disappoint. His guitar leads on songs like Dear Mr Fantasy, Pearly Queen, and w/ Clapton on Had To Cry Today, are good examples. He was 19 when he wrote and recorded Dear Mr Fantasy.

tonebender wrote: ↑Fri Jan 20, 2023 6:38 am It is sad Tim, and unfortunately in the near future we are going to lose many more of our music heroes that generated the tunes we grew up with in the 60's and 70's. They are all getting up there in the years and most have high mileage.

Last night I watched a video of him doing Almost Cut My Hair. That song is my personal anthem, if there can be such a thing. It suddenly occurred that we're watching the beginning of the end of a generation of music. Yes, they are timeless in the sense their quality will always be there. But the people who understand the cultural significance from having lived it will not be.

Not my type of musician due to his wacked out political views, not early ones but later views. That being said sorry to hear, RIP. They are going to be a lot more classic guys leaving us soon. Some of the older music was good, Southern cross on Daylight again was about the latest i was into.

He put out a great 1971 "solo" album back then called "If I could Only Remember My Name".
It was jammed full of players from The Greatful Dead, Santana, Jefferson Airplane, Joni Mitchell, Neil Young, Stills, Nash,
I have it somewhere around here.

Sad read but..........
https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2 ... bys-death/

mozz wrote: ↑Fri Jan 20, 2023 2:01 pm Not my type of musician due to his wacked out political views, not early ones but later views.

This has become a growing issue for me. After forty years old I essentially turned against myself, taken a contra position to much of what had previously defined me sentimentally. It is was inevitable that I turned on rock-and-roll, exposing it to the most savage criticism at my disposal. The imperatives of intellectual growth and self-overcoming absolutely demanded it.

Let me drop a bomb: Letting Elvis Presley shaking his hips was a mistake. Such overt displays of sexuality should never been allowed to become the norm in popular entertainment. Children should not be “a rockin’ and a rollin’” (which is a a euphemism for f*cking). But here we are in 2023.

Rock and roll is redneck music, the voice of the mob, of the ignorant masses, of lowbrow, working class, unlettered youth; it is escapism; it has a rebellious, hedonistic, primitive, godless spirit; it celebrates vicarious fantasies of power, sex, aggression, adventure, wealth, and worldliness.

But despite these realizations, my divided soul still loves rock and roll.

toomanycats wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:08 am

mozz wrote: ↑Fri Jan 20, 2023 2:01 pm Not my type of musician due to his wacked out political views, not early ones but later views.

This has become a growing issue for me. After forty years old I essentially turned against myself, taken a contra position to much of what had previously defined me sentimentally. It is was inevitable that I turned on rock-and-roll, exposing it to the most savage criticism at my disposal. The imperatives of intellectual growth and self-overcoming absolutely demanded it.

Let me drop a bomb: Letting Elvis Presley shaking his hips was a mistake. Such overt displays of sexuality should never been allowed to become the norm in popular entertainment. Children should not be “a rockin’ and a rollin’” (which is a a euphemism for f*cking). But here we are in 2023.

..... music, the voice of the mob, of the ignorant masses, of lowbrow, working class, unlettered youth; it is escapism; it has a rebellious, hedonistic, primitive, godless spirit; it celebrates vicarious fantasies of power, sex, aggression, adventure, wealth, and worldliness.

But despite these realizations, my divided soul still loves rock and roll.

(I'm writing this with fun in mind, as if I'm addressing an old puritanical elder, perhaps like the one my family name sprung from)

As rebellious action is often the product of repression, one should blame the repressionist's for overdoing their share., ...for not being aware of whom, and all what they deny. Censorship will never be as positively productive as a well rounded education, in terms of balanced growth going forwards.

" ... the voice of the mob, of the ignorant masses, of lowbrow, working class, unlettered youth; it is escapism; it has a rebellious, hedonistic, primitive, godless spirit; it celebrates vicarious fantasies of power, sex, aggression, adventure, wealth, and worldliness.'

Well said, .... if you feel the voice of the masses is not one deserving to call out or be listened to,
or, if you hold that the masses are actually inherently ignorant, not able to be uplifted, but are natural in their worker "class", low, and unlettered.
The primative, hedonist, godless spirit, can best here be gleaned with a repressionist's mirror.
Reflect the same for the seats of fantasies of power, sex, aggression, wealth.
All things in God, let it be, its only rocknroll.

It’s just music to me. RIP Mr. Crosby.

tonebender wrote: ↑Fri Jan 20, 2023 6:38 am It is sad Tim, and unfortunately in the near future we are going to lose many more of our music heroes that generated the tunes we grew up with in the 60's and 70's. They are all getting up there in the years and most have high mileage.

"They are all getting up there in the years and most have high mileage."

Not to mention many of us are also !

toomanycats wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:08 am

mozz wrote: ↑Fri Jan 20, 2023 2:01 pm Not my type of musician due to his wacked out political views, not early ones but later views.

This has become a growing issue for me. After forty years old I essentially turned against myself, taken a contra position to much of what had previously defined me sentimentally. It is was inevitable that I turned on rock-and-roll, exposing it to the most savage criticism at my disposal. The imperatives of intellectual growth and self-overcoming absolutely demanded it.

Let me drop a bomb: Letting Elvis Presley shaking his hips was a mistake. Such overt displays of sexuality should never been allowed to become the norm in popular entertainment. Children should not be “a rockin’ and a rollin’” (which is a a euphemism for f*cking). But here we are in 2023.

Rock and roll is redneck music, the voice of the mob, of the ignorant masses, of lowbrow, working class, unlettered youth; it is escapism; it has a rebellious, hedonistic, primitive, godless spirit; it celebrates vicarious fantasies of power, sex, aggression, adventure, wealth, and worldliness.

But despite these realizations, my divided soul still loves rock and roll.

Interesting point of view. I must say we have much in common.

toomanycats wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:08 am

mozz wrote: ↑Fri Jan 20, 2023 2:01 pm Not my type of musician due to his wacked out political views, not early ones but later views.

This has become a growing issue for me. After forty years old I essentially turned against myself, taken a contra position to much of what had previously defined me sentimentally. It is was inevitable that I turned on rock-and-roll, exposing it to the most savage criticism at my disposal. The imperatives of intellectual growth and self-overcoming absolutely demanded it.

Let me drop a bomb: Letting Elvis Presley shaking his hips was a mistake. Such overt displays of sexuality should never been allowed to become the norm in popular entertainment. Children should not be “a rockin’ and a rollin’” (which is a a euphemism for f*cking). But here we are in 2023.

Rock and roll is redneck music, the voice of the mob, of the ignorant masses, of lowbrow, working class, unlettered youth; it is escapism; it has a rebellious, hedonistic, primitive, godless spirit; it celebrates vicarious fantasies of power, sex, aggression, adventure, wealth, and worldliness.

But despite these realizations, my divided soul still loves rock and roll.

I now exactly what you mean I think. The funny thing is as society has switched 180 and this music helped do it I realized awhile ago I can sing almost cut my hair wth the full rebellious spirit it was written as I rage against the woke society this music created. We are now the oppressed minority looking to keep from being cancelled.