Best Agile On The Horizon?

minigoos · Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:32 pm

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well . . . i thought yawld never ask

minigoos · Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:54 am

tobijohn wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:19 pm
minigoos wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:58 am Hey All:

Long time lurker on the LAST agile guitar forum--took me a week to re-find you all here. I was watching that thread because I have wanted a double cut agile for a long long time--so thanks to you all for pushing rondo to put another one out and doing all that design inputting. When the first batch finally came out, I missed the them because I couldn't decide on which finish (all of them so showy!). Then by the time I got to the preorder page for the second batch, the ocean burst was all that was left. Which was OK because that the was the one I had finally decided on. And now. . . the unopened box is in my garage! But that said, did rondo ever get in the:

AD-3200MCC Gold P90
AD-3200MCC Silverburst Bound

I never saw those listed and, if they do exist, I would love to see pics.

Thanks all.

MG
Not yet, IIRC, Kurt said sometime later this summer...

If any body is interested, the Gold Top and Silver Burst AD3200 are up on the site now . . . .

https://www.rondomusic.com/product10496.html

https://www.rondomusic.com/product10497.html

uwmcscott · Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:09 pm

Looks like stuff is starting to trickle in. I'm not a a big quilt fan, but this is sure a nice looking 3200 - especially with the natural back and sides

https://www.rondomusic.com/product10495.html

MattFireblade · Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:36 pm

There is only one of the Burple AD-3200s listed, so I'm not sure how much is 'new' stock showing. I'm nervous I'm going to miss another one.

Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:41 pm

MattFireblade wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:36 pm There is only one of the Burple AD-3200s listed, so I'm not sure how much is 'new' stock showing. I'm nervous I'm going to miss another one.

Using the Rondo inventory hack, there are two of those, four of the GTs and three silverbursts currently in stock...

Gergo · Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:14 am

uwmcscott wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:09 pm Looks like stuff is starting to trickle in. I'm not a a big quilt fan, but this is sure a nice looking 3200 - especially with the natural back and sides

https://www.rondomusic.com/product10495.html

I have one coming in. Boy, I must be really sick. I keep telling myself over and over that I don't need anything else from Rondo, that I have "been there, done that with the Agiles" and am moving on (and I have for the most part)........then out of nowhere he comes out with something new that I find appealing. I already have four 3200-series guitars. What am I gonna do with this one? I will figure it out I guess. I think that we don't give Kurt enough credit as a business man! Lol

Rght now I am telling myself that I am going to sell one of the ones I already have. We will see.

Gergo · Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:46 am

Okay. Never mind. Rondo just refunded my order. They said there were two in stock and obviously that was a mistake. Oh well. Figires

minigoos · Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:56 pm

So you all with the multiple 3200s . . . can you compare the tone to the AL3010SE (all mahogany)? I have been A/Bing thate AD and the SE, and (I am learning here) but they sound way different. Is that the maple cap? The neck through? The combination of the two? . . . or maybe I am nutz?

nomadh · Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:06 pm

uwmcscott wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:09 pm Looks like stuff is starting to trickle in. I'm not a a big quilt fan, but this is sure a nice looking 3200 - especially with the natural back and sides

https://www.rondomusic.com/product10495.html

I still call that his dark red wash back. Bummer

uwmcscott · Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:18 pm

nomadh wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:06 pm I still call that his dark red wash back. Bummer

Agree, but I do like it better than the matched color backs. And it is a step in the right direction.

I am kicking myself for not ordering one of those 3010SE "custom select" offerings they had for a while. Those were the ones that had some limited customizations ( Color, plastics etc ) but were in the ballpark of a regular 3xxx. I confirmed at the time that they could indeed do a light/natural back tint in combination with any color chosen for the top. I was going to do a "Silvertop" wiht a light back but never ended up pulling the trigger.

Gergo · Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:29 pm

minigoos wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:56 pm So you all with the multiple 3200s . . . can you compare the tone to the AL3010SE (all mahogany)? I have been A/Bing thate AD and the SE, and (I am learning here) but they sound way different. Is that the maple cap? The neck through? The combination of the two? . . . or maybe I am nutz?

The 3200 sounds brighter, and its a combination of the neck through and maple cap, I am sure

minigoos · Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:41 pm

uwmcscott wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:18 pm
nomadh wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:06 pm I still call that his dark red wash back. Bummer
Agree, but I do like it better than the matched color backs. And it is a step in the right direction.

I am kicking myself for not ordering one of those 3010SE "custom select" offerings they had for a while. Those were the ones that had some limited customizations ( Color, plastics etc ) but were in the ballpark of a regular 3xxx. I confirmed at the time that they could indeed do a light/natural back tint in combination with any color chosen for the top. I was going to do a "Silvertop" wiht a light back but never ended up pulling the trigger.

That quilt looks great. Too bad they sold out on you. And with the non-matching back looks way better; not sure why stain it so dark at all though. Why not show off the neck through stripes?

Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:34 pm

minigoos wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:56 pm So you all with the multiple 3200s . . . can you compare the tone to the AL3010SE (all mahogany)? I have been A/Bing thate AD and the SE, and (I am learning here) but they sound way different. Is that the maple cap? The neck through? The combination of the two? . . . or maybe I am nutz?

While they all use Alnico 5 pickups, the new style (thinner) Al-3100m/MC/MCC, Al-3200 and AL/AD-3200MCC models have G&B pickups, the AL-3010SE has no no-name pickups. Up until very recently, everyone seemed to prefer the no-names which also came in the earlier AL-3xxx series....

motowntom · Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:06 pm

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Second best guitar I've ever owned, and I've had WAY to meny.
Cheers

Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:21 pm

minigoos wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:41 pm And with the non-matching back looks way better; not sure why stain it so dark at all though. Why not show off the neck through stripes?

IIRC, Kurt told another member here that he discontinued the lighter stained natural backs because any flaws showed too easily...

dabbler · Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:57 am

tobijohn wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:34 pm
minigoos wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:56 pm So you all with the multiple 3200s . . . can you compare the tone to the AL3010SE (all mahogany)? I have been A/Bing thate AD and the SE, and (I am learning here) but they sound way different. Is that the maple cap? The neck through? The combination of the two? . . . or maybe I am nutz?
While they all use Alnico 5 pickups, the new style (thinner) Al-3100m/MC/MCC, Al-3200 and AL/AD-3200MCC models have G&B pickups, the AL-3010SE has no no-name pickups. Up until very recently, everyone seemed to prefer the no-names which also came in the earlier AL-3xxx series....

I don't know which pups are in my 3200 MCC (bought as a b-stock in Dec 2016) but they are my LEAST favorite of ALL of my Agiles because they are too dark! If it weren't for the splitting function, I would hardly play it at all.

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minigoos · Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:11 pm

dabbler wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:57 am
tobijohn wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:34 pm
minigoos wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:56 pm So you all with the multiple 3200s . . . can you compare the tone to the AL3010SE (all mahogany)? I have been A/Bing thate AD and the SE, and (I am learning here) but they sound way different. Is that the maple cap? The neck through? The combination of the two? . . . or maybe I am nutz?
While they all use Alnico 5 pickups, the new style (thinner) Al-3100m/MC/MCC, Al-3200 and AL/AD-3200MCC models have G&B pickups, the AL-3010SE has no no-name pickups. Up until very recently, everyone seemed to prefer the no-names which also came in the earlier AL-3xxx series....
I don't know which pups are in my 3200 MCC (bought as a b-stock in Dec 2016) but they are my LEAST favorite of ALL of my Agiles because they are too dark! If it weren't for the splitting function, I would hardly play it at all.

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I only have a 2017 SE and this new 2020 AD3200 in terms of Agiles; and the the pickups in the SE seemed really dark to me; but I replaced with with some from Tim plus all new wires and switches. Now it sounds great--but the new AD is def. brighter and actually is not bad at all stock to me by comparison. But I am just beginning to learn here. I was surprised just how diff. the AD sounds; and I didnt' realize it would have a thinner body! Makes the SE seem kinda chunky . . .

Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:35 pm

dabbler wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:57 am ...I don't know which pups are in my 3200 MCC (bought as a b-stock in Dec 2016) but they are my LEAST favorite of ALL of my Agiles because they are too dark! If it weren't for the splitting function, I would hardly play it at all.

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Definitely G&Bs. I haven't opened up my AD-3200MCC yet (waiting for a reasonably priced set of used SD Saturday Night Specials to show themselves) but someone here has and they're G&Bs too. However, I've got a set of Buddhas with A4s sitting around that I might just use instead. The lefty CSBF AD-3200MCCs are supposed to be in sometime before the end of the year so maybe I'll just use that for the SDs if I happen nab a set before then...

minigoos · Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:43 pm

tobijohn wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:35 pm
dabbler wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:57 am ...I don't know which pups are in my 3200 MCC (bought as a b-stock in Dec 2016) but they are my LEAST favorite of ALL of my Agiles because they are too dark! If it weren't for the splitting function, I would hardly play it at all.

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Definitely G&Bs. I haven't opened up my AD-3200MCC yet (waiting for a reasonably priced set of used SD Saturday Night Specials to show themselves) but someone here has and they're G&Bs too. However, I've got a set of Buddhas with A4s sitting around that I might just use instead. The lefty CSBF AD-3200MCCs are supposed to be in sometime before the end of the year so maybe I'll just use that for the SDs if I happen nab a set before then...

Did you not like the a4s? In the SE I have a2/a3 unpotted; and they sound super clear at lowish volumes/clean. I have heard good things about a4s. But maybe I will just put a5s in the 3200. I have never had a4s . . . .you not having them uninstalled seems like a bad sign!

Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:13 pm

minigoos wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:43 pm
...Did you not like the a4s? In the SE I have a2/a3 unpotted; and they sound super clear at lowish volumes/clean. I have heard good things about a4s. But maybe I will just put a5s in the 3200. I have never had a4s . . . .you not having them uninstalled seems like a bad sign!

I like them a lot, I've got a set of Tonerider AC4s in an Epi Standard. The Buddhas I picked up used off of Reverb, they've never been installed in any of my guitars. Humbuckers with Alnico 4s just aren't that common. I also have some of the magnets I intend to swap into a set of Epi Alnico Classic Pros someday...

minigoos · Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:19 pm

minigoos wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:32 pm DSC_8201.small.jpg
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well . . . i thought yawld never ask

Oh! And to quote myself here, I ended up returning that blue one . . . I have to admit, I just could deal with the blue. The frets needed some work which I always do anyway but that color . . . I was just made me too self conscious about the blue and it kept me from wanting to do the work on it. It was not a bad guitar though, but I was just not into it enough to give it the review it deserved--so I have been waiting to get a 2TS . . . a quilt one . . and they came in stock . . and and I got it today; see my new topic on that, but . . . I think its a plain top! Anyway--maybe I will return it too . . . aye! I dunno yet . . .

BrianSkeezer · Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:16 pm

minigoos wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:19 pm
minigoos wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:32 pm DSC_8201.small.jpg
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Oh! And to quote myself here, I ended up returning that blue one . . . I have to admit, I just could deal with the blue. The frets needed some work which I always do anyway but that color . . . I was just made me too self conscious about the blue and it kept me from wanting to do the work on it. It was not a bad guitar though, but I was just not into it enough to give it the review it deserved--so I have been waiting to get a 2TS . . . a quilt one . . and they came in stock . . and and I got it today; see my new topic on that, but . . . I think its a plain top! Anyway--maybe I will return it too . . . aye! I dunno yet . . .

Hey, whatcha got against blue guitars?

minigoos · Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:49 pm

Ya know, sending that back was hard. I have not had that many guitars, but that particular one I think sounded way better than ones with what should have been way better pickups . . . but man, I don't play well enough to rock such a confident guitar! It looked cool--but most of my guitars look like nice furniture . . . I kinda like it that way.